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The Liberal Voting Christian Part 2

In order to further examine this topic and properly answer the question, "What political view ought a Christian have? conservative or liberal?"   Here is a chart I have put together that covers the basic core elements of both perspectives.  Again this is just a starting point and it is an over simplification of the two belief systems.  There are many variations and combinations of the two.  My hope is that this will spark some good debate.  And cause some authentic thinking.

conservativeliberal
God given rightsstate given rights
pro lifepro abortion
traditional marriagesame sex marriage
tax lesstax more
spend lessspend more
fewer programsmore programs

These are some of the polarizing issues that tend to draw a clear line in the sand.  From a Christian perspective I attempted to rank them in order of importance.  The value of an unborn child's life is a big game changer that trumps most other issues in order of magnitude.  While I hear "love thy neighbor" used as an argument to justify giving well fare to the poor by way of taxing the rich, isn't advocating for your neighbors right to be born an even greater act of love?

The Liberal Voting Christian Part 1 November 22, 2010

Have you ever assumed all Christians would be politically conservative?  Recently I have discovered this is not true.  To be clear I am not talking about being Republican or Democrat.  When you hone in on specific parties or people within parties it is easy to become distracted from the topic at hand.  I'm talking about ideology.  What political view ought a Christian have?  conservative or liberal?  Even if they are realistically unattainable on this earth, what is the best ideology to take on as a Christian?  Allow me to define "Christian".  I'm not speaking of cultural Christians or non-practicing Christians.  I am talking specifically about devout followers of Jesus Christ who have a biblical perspective and are motivated to "go and make disciples" as well as read their Bible and pray each day.  I have recently encountered two examples of liberal voting Christians and it has truly fascinated me.  I'm not sure if everyone else in the pew just appears to go with the conservative flow.  Are these two examples flukes of nature?

Example 1
Back in 2008 I had a conversation with a Christian friend who supported a presidential candidate with very liberal views.  He explained that his candidate supports lots of government, lots of charity to the poor, inner city and third world countries.  And as a Christian with a missionary perspective, these are good things to achieve.  Therefore he would be supporting a liberal presidential candidate.  I was blown away.  I could not believe my ears.  I had never known such a devout Christian to lean so far to the left politically.  And the guy he voted for wasn't just slightly left of center.  To me this was puzzling.  (Side note: even the opposing candidate was on the liberal side of many issues, but wouldn't it be rational to go with the lesser of two evils?)

Example 2
Recently a friend posted on facebook "you can be a Christian and a Liberal..... it's allowed".  Even though every bone in my body told me "leave it alone Nate, your about to open a can of worms" I couldn't resist.  I posted back, "So as long as your giving to people it doesn't matter how much debt you accumulate in the process? Is that what your saying? Is that a tenant of the Christian faith? Help me understand that from a biblical perspective."  Needless to say my questions were viewed as combative at first.  And in hind site I admit I didn't express my curiosity in any sort of tactful way.  My friend defended his stance and a couple other people chimed in to defend him as well.  And to their credit some good thoughts and interesting arguments to support the liberal voting Christian were made.  I however am not convinced or persuaded that it is righteous or pious to take on a liberal perspective as a Christian.

Arguments For The Liberal Voting Christian
  • XYZ Republican is corrupt and greedy
  • Taxes are biblical and we should submit to that
  • Republican XYZ cut taxes and spent more, Democrats raise taxes and spend more which is a better model and I'd rather spend money we have than money we don't
  • The national debt is not Democrat XYZ's fault
  • The national debt is previous Republican XYZ's fault
  • Republicans are fiscally irresponsible, except for this one guy XYZ who I like
  • Christians can't even agree on theology or denomination, how can they agree on politics
  • You can be Christian and conservative, moderate or liberal
  • Political views have nothing to do with salvation
  • Jesus isn't a politician
  • Republican & Democrat labels will not exist in heaven
  • God judges the heart, motives and actions directly taken by the individual
  • As long as you voted according to your conscience, that's what matters
  • As long as you have reasons to back up your decision, that's what matters
  • You have no place questioning differing political views of other Christians
  • You can't win with politics, you get criticized for voting liberal and for voting conservative
  • I vote for who can help the most people, Democrat or Republican
  • Democrats care more about the people and where the money is going
  • Republican's decided to go to war
  • I vote the way I feel is best
I have underlined in red what I believe are the most notable points.  However I still do not think they are good arguments to support a liberal voting Christian.  Notice that "conservatism" was never directly attacked only republicans in general.  I am seeking a well thought out answer to the following question.  What political view ought a Christian have?  Please explain and give real life examples as well as examples from scripture.  For the sake of the argument, simply opting out and not voting is not an option.  Imagine someone has a gun to your head and your forced to pick conservative or liberal what do you pick and why?  Maybe a good place to start would be outlining the liberal agenda and comparing that with the conservative agenda and see how both line up with Biblical truths.

America's View of God October 8, 2010













If you pray to God, to whom — or what — are you praying?  When you sing God Bless America, whose blessing are you seeking?

In the USA, God — or the idea of a God — permeates daily life. Our views of God have been fundamental to the nation's past, help explain many of the conflicts in our society and worldwide, and could offer a hint of what the future holds. Is God by our side, or beyond the stars? Wrathful or forgiving? Judging us every moment, someday or never?

"You can't really ask people directly about their moral and philosophical worldview. But if you know their image of God, it could give you insight into why they get upset when you break the rules, or you stand up for a certain politician. Or, how they will react when bad things happen or whether they see personal morality or foreign policy in stark right-or-wrong terms."  Read more at USA Today.
Is God at the center of this discussion, or the idea of God?

1 Judge vs California August 7, 2010













When a judge struck down California's ban on same-sex marriage Wednesday, he handed gay rights advocates a historic and invigorating victory, but also a temporary one in a long fight that may be heading toward a showdown at the U.S. Supreme Court.  Read more at: SFGate.  FOX.  ABC.  CNN. 

"The whole nation is watching, and the whole nation should be quaking to think that a single judge sitting in California can reverse the will of 7 million voters." -Douglas Napier

Does it matter that Chief U.S. District Judge Vaughn Walker, is himself gay?

Jennifer Keenton Must Change Belief's In Order To Graduate July 27, 2010


Lawsuit Claims College Ordered Student to Alter Religious Views on Homosexuality, Or Be Dismissed
 Jennifer Keeton, 24, has been pursuing a master's degree in school counseling at Augusta State University since 2009, but school officials have informed her that she'll be dismissed from the program unless she alters her "central religious beliefs on human nature and conduct".  Augusta State University faculty have promised to expel Miss Keeton from the graduate Counselor Education Program not because of poor academic showing or demonstrated deficiencies in clinical performance, but simply because she has communicated both inside and outside the classroom that she holds to Christian ethical convictions on matters of human sexuality and gender identity.  Read more: Fox, The Augusta Chronicle.  Can anyone explain the process required to change one's beliefs?  If so what is the difference between that process and brain washing?

Knuckle Head of the Day: Tavis Smiley June 3, 2010



To maintain an intelligent discussion, nothing needs to be said in response to Tavis's comments. However some closely related topics are Tavis's consumption of paint chips as child, the dumb-ing down of America, or how relativism masks reality.  Do you see what happens when someone takes a sliver of truth and makes it an absolute?



Thanks to Michael Graham's Natural Truth Blog for digging up these video's and paring them together.

Arrested For Saying Homosexuality is a Sin May 3, 2010

Wokingham, Cumbria, UK - Dale McAlpine was charged with causing “harassment, alarm or distress” after a homosexual police community support officer (PCSO) overheard him reciting a number of “sins” referred to in the Bible, including blasphemy, drunkenness and same sex relationships.  See full story at the Telegraph.  Beware the story that appeared in the NY Daily News is miss leading because the picture posted is from an entirely different event in Philadelphia that is not associated with the McAlpine arrest in the UK.  Compare and contrast the Telegraph story with the NY Daily News Story of the same event for a great example of how media bias is alive and well.  Should someone be arrested for saying homosexuality is a sin?  Does freedom of speech exist in the UK?  Is preaching on a street corner to people passing by effective Christian outreach?

National Day of Prayer: Unconstitutional April 16, 2010

U.S. District Judge Barbara Crabb rules national day of prayer unconstitutional. See full story at CBS News. What's the difference between prayer and free speech in the eye's of someone who doesn't pray?